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Season 13 Episode 12 | 26m 46s | Video has closed captioning.
Meet Billie J. Farrell, the first female commander of the USS Constitution. Harriet Beecher Stowe Center’s Ashley Hufnagel talks about the ethics of assigning Queer identities to artists who did not self-identify. Visit Four Phantoms Brewery in Greenfield. Three of the artists behind “Something Extraordinary" at Westfield State University talk about what inspired the exhibit.
Aired: 03/23/23
♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >>> COMING UP, WE'RE CONNECTING >>> COMING UP, WE'RE CONNECTING YOU WITH THE CREATIVITY AND YOU WITH THE CREATIVITY AND CULTURE IN YOUR COMMUNITY, CULTURE IN YOUR COMMUNITY, INCLUDING THE FIRST WOMAN TO INCLUDING THE FIRST WOMAN TO TAKE COMMAND OF THE USS TAKE COMMAND OF THE USS CONSTITUTION.
CONSTITUTION.
>> TO BE HERE AND TO BE >> TO BE HERE AND TO BE ACCESSIBLE FOR THE NEXT ACCESSIBLE FOR THE NEXT GENERATION SO THEY CAN SEE, YOU GENERATION SO THEY CAN SEE, YOU CAN DO THIS, IF YOU WANT TO CAN DO THIS, IF YOU WANT TO COMMAND A SHIP, YOU CAN DO IT.
COMMAND A SHIP, YOU CAN DO IT.
>>> A FRANKLIN COUNTY MAN >>> A FRANKLIN COUNTY MAN TRANSITIONS FROM SCHOOLTEACHER TRANSITIONS FROM SCHOOLTEACHER TO BREWMASTER.
TO BREWMASTER.
>> WHEN THE MONEY GETS SCARY OR >> WHEN THE MONEY GETS SCARY OR WE'RE FIGURING OUT HOW TO MAKE WE'RE FIGURING OUT HOW TO MAKE PAYROLL.
PAYROLL.
BUT THERE'S THE HIGH MOMENTS BUT THERE'S THE HIGH MOMENTS WHEN YOU SEE THE COMMUNITY THAT WHEN YOU SEE THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU BUILD AROUND A PLACE LIKE YOU BUILD AROUND A PLACE LIKE THIS.
THIS.
>>> AND WE'LL LEARN HOW MUSEUMS >>> AND WE'LL LEARN HOW MUSEUMS ARE HAMMING THE COMPLEX ETHICS ARE HAMMING THE COMPLEX ETHICS ARUN UNTOLD QUEER HISTORIES.
ARUN UNTOLD QUEER HISTORIES.
>> THE STOWE CENTER IS MOTIVATED >> THE STOWE CENTER IS MOTIVATED BY THIS TENET WHICH IS TO TELL BY THIS TENET WHICH IS TO TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE TRUTH ABOUT THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY AND OUR NATION.
OUR COUNTRY AND OUR NATION.
>> JOIN US FOR THOSE STORIES AND >> JOIN US FOR THOSE STORIES AND MORE AS WE EXPLORE THE MORE AS WE EXPLORE THE CREATIVITYE, CULTURE, AND CREATIVITYE, CULTURE, AND COMMUNITY THAT MAKE US WESTERN COMMUNITY THAT MAKE US WESTERN NEW ENGLAND, UP NEXT ON NEW ENGLAND, UP NEXT ON "CONNECTING POINT."
"CONNECTING POINT."
>> SUPPORT FOR "CONNECTING >> SUPPORT FOR "CONNECTING POINT" PROVIDED BY OUR POINT" PROVIDED BY OUR CONTRIBUTING VIEWERS.
CONTRIBUTING VIEWERS.
♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >>> WELCOME AND THANKS FOR >>> WELCOME AND THANKS FOR JOINING US FOR "CONNECTING JOINING US FOR "CONNECTING POINT," YOUR SOURCE FOR POINT," YOUR SOURCE FOR CREATIVITY, CULTURE, AND CREATIVITY, CULTURE, AND COMMUNITY.
COMMUNITY.
I'M ZYDALIS BAUER.
I'M ZYDALIS BAUER.
EVERY WEEK WE EXPLORE ALL THAT EVERY WEEK WE EXPLORE ALL THAT THE REGION HAS THE OFFER, AND THE REGION HAS THE OFFER, AND TODAY WE'RE COMING TO YOU FROM TODAY WE'RE COMING TO YOU FROM THE FUR FEE CONSERVATORY OWE THE THE FUR FEE CONSERVATORY OWE THE CAMPUS OF UMASS AMBURST.
CAMPUS OF UMASS AMBURST.
SINCE 1867 IT'S SERVED AS A SINCE 1867 IT'S SERVED AS A RESPITE FOR GENERATIONS OF RESPITE FOR GENERATIONS OF STUDENTS LOOKING TO GET AWAY STUDENTS LOOKING TO GET AWAY FROM THE HUSTLE AND BUSTLE OF FROM THE HUSTLE AND BUSTLE OF THE UNIVERSITY'S FLAGSHIP THE UNIVERSITY'S FLAGSHIP CAMPUS.
CAMPUS.
THE COLORFUL CAMELLIA TREES, THE COLORFUL CAMELLIA TREES, EXOTIC ORCHIDS, AND LUSH RAIN EXOTIC ORCHIDS, AND LUSH RAIN FOREST ROOM ARE A WELCOME FOREST ROOM ARE A WELCOME SITTING ON AS WE WAIT FOR SPRING SITTING ON AS WE WAIT FOR SPRING TO ARRIVE IN WESTERN TO ARRIVE IN WESTERN MASSACHUSETTS.
MASSACHUSETTS.
BUT OUR FIRST STORY TAKES US BUT OUR FIRST STORY TAKES US EAST TO THE CHILLY WATERS OF EAST TO THE CHILLY WATERS OF BOSTON HARBOR.
BOSTON HARBOR.
BUILT IN 1797, AND KNOWN AS OLD BUILT IN 1797, AND KNOWN AS OLD IRONSIDES, THE USS CONSTITUTION IRONSIDES, THE USS CONSTITUTION IS THE OLD COMMISSIONED WARSHIP IS THE OLD COMMISSIONED WARSHIP CURRENTLY AFLOAT.
CURRENTLY AFLOAT.
WHILE IN SERVICE IT PLAYED KEY WHILE IN SERVICE IT PLAYED KEY ROLES IN MANY BATTLES, BUT TODAY ROLES IN MANY BATTLES, BUT TODAY IT'S A FLOATING MUSEUM THAT SEES IT'S A FLOATING MUSEUM THAT SEES OVER 600,000 VISITORS ANNUALLY.
OVER 600,000 VISITORS ANNUALLY.
AND RECENTLY ITS LONG HISTORY AT AND RECENTLY ITS LONG HISTORY AT ADD NEW CHAPTER AS BILLIE ADD NEW CHAPTER AS BILLIE FARRELL BECAME THE 77TH FARRELL BECAME THE 77TH COMMANDING OFFICER OF THE USS COMMANDING OFFICER OF THE USS CONSTITUTION.
CONSTITUTION.
AND THE FIRST WOMAN TO HOLD THAT AND THE FIRST WOMAN TO HOLD THAT POSITION IN THE SHIP'S 225-YEAR POSITION IN THE SHIP'S 225-YEAR HISTORY.
HISTORY.
"CONNECTING POINT" TOOK A ROAD "CONNECTING POINT" TOOK A ROAD TRIP TO THE CHARLESTOWN NAVAL TRIP TO THE CHARLESTOWN NAVAL YARD TO MEET WITH COMMANDER YARD TO MEET WITH COMMANDER FARRELL AND TAKE A TOUR OF THE FARRELL AND TAKE A TOUR OF THE HISTORIC SHIP.
HISTORIC SHIP.
>> IT'S VERY HUMBLING TO BE HERE >> IT'S VERY HUMBLING TO BE HERE SO IF YOU GO ON THE LIST AND YOU SO IF YOU GO ON THE LIST AND YOU LOOK AT THE LIST OF COMMANDING LOOK AT THE LIST OF COMMANDING OFFICERS THAT HAVE SERVED HERE, OFFICERS THAT HAVE SERVED HERE, YOU'LL SEE NAVAL HEROES NAMES, YOU'LL SEE NAVAL HEROES NAMES, LIKE PORTER, PREBL, BAIN DRINK.
LIKE PORTER, PREBL, BAIN DRINK.
THOSE ARE VERY ICONIC NAMES THAT THOSE ARE VERY ICONIC NAMES THAT REALLY ESTABLISHED OUR COUNTRY REALLY ESTABLISHED OUR COUNTRY AS A NAVAL FORCE.
AS A NAVAL FORCE.
AND SO TO FALL IN THEIR FOOD AND SO TO FALL IN THEIR FOOD STEP -- FOOTSTEPS AND TO STEP -- FOOTSTEPS AND TO REPRESENT OVER THE 70,000 WOMEN REPRESENT OVER THE 70,000 WOMEN WE HAVE SERVING IN THE NAVY IS WE HAVE SERVING IN THE NAVY IS TODAY, EVERY DAY IS A PRIVILEGE TODAY, EVERY DAY IS A PRIVILEGE TO REPRESENT THAT FOR THE TO REPRESENT THAT FOR THE COUNTRY AND THE NAV YEAR.
COUNTRY AND THE NAV YEAR.
>> WE'RE -- NAVY.
>> WE'RE -- NAVY.
>> IN 1998 WE DID A TRID ROOM -- >> IN 1998 WE DID A TRID ROOM -- ROAD TRIP.
ROAD TRIP.
WE WATCHED THE FREEDOM TRAIL AND WE WATCHED THE FREEDOM TRAIL AND HAPPENED TO COME HERE TO THE USS HAPPENED TO COME HERE TO THE USS CONSTITUTION.
CONSTITUTION.
MY DAD TOOK THAT PHOTO.
MY DAD TOOK THAT PHOTO.
FIRST THING I DID WAS TO FIND FIRST THING I DID WAS TO FIND THE PICTURE TO REALLY REFLECT ON THE PICTURE TO REALLY REFLECT ON IT AND HOW FAR THE JOURNEY HAS IT AND HOW FAR THE JOURNEY HAS BROUGHT ME.
BROUGHT ME.
♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> SHE WAS BUILT AS A >> SHE WAS BUILT AS A THREE-MASTTED 44-GUN FRIGATE.
THREE-MASTTED 44-GUN FRIGATE.
SHE WAS LAUNCHED IN 1797.
SHE WAS LAUNCHED IN 1797.
SO WE JUST CELEBRATED THE 225TH SO WE JUST CELEBRATED THE 225TH BIRTHDAY.
BIRTHDAY.
SHE WAS MADE TO BE REALLY A NEW SHE WAS MADE TO BE REALLY A NEW CLASS OF SHIP THAT TOOK THE BEST CLASS OF SHIP THAT TOOK THE BEST OF BOTH WORDINGS.
OF BOTH WORDINGS.
-- WORLDS.
-- WORLDS.
AND TODAY WE -- ODDS ODDS -- THE AND TODAY WE -- ODDS ODDS -- THE TREES -- TREES -- [AUDIO DIFFICULTIES] [AUDIO DIFFICULTIES] [BELL RINGING] [BELL RINGING] >> SO 1998, SO THE SAME YEAR >> SO 1998, SO THE SAME YEAR THAT PHOTO WAS TAKEN OF ME NEXT THAT PHOTO WAS TAKEN OF ME NEXT TO THE SHIP IS THE SAME YEAR A TO THE SHIP IS THE SAME YEAR A WOMAN ASSUMED COMMANDING IN THE WOMAN ASSUMED COMMANDING IN THE NAVY FOR THE FIRST TIME.
NAVY FOR THE FIRST TIME.
JUST AS TIMELINE GOES, I ALWAYS JUST AS TIMELINE GOES, I ALWAYS FIND IT VERY IRONIC THAT THAT FIND IT VERY IRONIC THAT THAT PICTURE WAS TAKEN THE SAME YEAR PICTURE WAS TAKEN THE SAME YEAR AND I END UP HERE AS ANOTHER AND I END UP HERE AS ANOTHER FIRST THAT LONG LINE OF WOMEN FIRST THAT LONG LINE OF WOMEN THAT HAVE COME BEFORE ME.
THAT HAVE COME BEFORE ME.
SO USUALLY I COME IN IN THE SO USUALLY I COME IN IN THE MORNING.
MORNING.
I GET A WORKOUT IN AND I USUALLY I GET A WORKOUT IN AND I USUALLY DO SOME EMAILS AND MEETINGS AND DO SOME EMAILS AND MEETINGS AND PHONE CALLS AND ABSOLUTELY AT PHONE CALLS AND ABSOLUTELY AT SOME POINT I GO OUT TO THE SHIP.
SOME POINT I GO OUT TO THE SHIP.
I TRY TO INTERACT WITH AS MAY BE I TRY TO INTERACT WITH AS MAY BE GUESTS AS POSSIBLE, TALK TO THE GUESTS AS POSSIBLE, TALK TO THE CREW.
CREW.
AND OTHER DAYS I HAVE SPEAKING AND OTHER DAYS I HAVE SPEAKING ENGAGEMENTS AND I DO A VARIETY ENGAGEMENTS AND I DO A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT THINGS ACROSS THE OF DIFFERENT THINGS ACROSS THE SO EVERY DAY IS A LITTLE SO EVERY DAY IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
DIFFERENT.
>> SO 10 TO 15 BE% OF THE SHIP >> SO 10 TO 15 BE% OF THE SHIP IS ORIGINAL.
IS ORIGINAL.
>> WE DO PROBABLY THREE TO FOUR >> WE DO PROBABLY THREE TO FOUR SPECIAL EVENTS A WEEK WHERE WE SPECIAL EVENTS A WEEK WHERE WE INTERACT WITH THE PUBLIC.
INTERACT WITH THE PUBLIC.
WE HOST TOURS ON THE SHIP.
WE HOST TOURS ON THE SHIP.
IN THE SUMMER WE SEE THREE TO IN THE SUMMER WE SEE THREE TO 5,000 PEOPLE A DAY.
5,000 PEOPLE A DAY.
SO THE SAILORS ARE GIVING THE SO THE SAILORS ARE GIVING THE TOURS, INTERACTING WITH THE TOURS, INTERACTING WITH THE PUBLIC, AND SHARING THE STORIES PUBLIC, AND SHARING THE STORIES OF WHAT THE NAVY DOES TODAY.
OF WHAT THE NAVY DOES TODAY.
SO OFTEN I TELL PEOPLE SO OFTEN I TELL PEOPLE CONSTITUTION WAS BUILT FOR CONSTITUTION WAS BUILT FOR ANTI-PRICERY -- ANTIPIRACY, ALL ANTI-PRICERY -- ANTIPIRACY, ALL MISSES THE NAVY DOES IN 2023.
MISSES THE NAVY DOES IN 2023.
AND WE STILL FIRE TWICE A DAY, AND WE STILL FIRE TWICE A DAY, SO EVERY MORNING AT 8:00 A.M.
SO EVERY MORNING AT 8:00 A.M.
WHEN WE PLAY THE NATIONAL ANTHEM WHEN WE PLAY THE NATIONAL ANTHEM AND RAISE THE FLAG, AND EVERY AND RAISE THE FLAG, AND EVERY EVENING AT SUNSET WHEN WE LOWER EVENING AT SUNSET WHEN WE LOWER THE FLAG, WE STILL FIRE.
THE FLAG, WE STILL FIRE.
SO ANYBODY THAT'S IN THE AREA IS SO ANYBODY THAT'S IN THE AREA IS VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT SOUND.
VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT SOUND.
IT'S ALWAYS AN OVERWHELMING IT'S ALWAYS AN OVERWHELMING RESPONSE WHEN YOU START TALKING RESPONSE WHEN YOU START TALKING TO PEOPLE ABOUT THE NAMES, JUST TO PEOPLE ABOUT THE NAMES, JUST EVEN ASSOCIATED WITH THE SHIP.
EVEN ASSOCIATED WITH THE SHIP.
THE GEORGE WASHINGTON NAMED THE GEORGE WASHINGTON NAMED CONSTITUTION.
CONSTITUTION.
JOHN ADAMS WAT AT THE JOHN ADAMS WAT AT THE COMMISSIONING.
COMMISSIONING.
THE PAUL REVERE DID THE THE PAUL REVERE DID THE COPPERSMITHING ON THE SHIP.
COPPERSMITHING ON THE SHIP.
IT BECOMES VERY REAL FOR PEOPLE.
IT BECOMES VERY REAL FOR PEOPLE.
AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE WARS AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE WARS THAT THE SHIP FOUGHT IN AND IT'S THAT THE SHIP FOUGHT IN AND IT'S A BATTLEGROUND THAT REPRESENTS A BATTLEGROUND THAT REPRESENTS THE STRENGTH, DEDICATION, AND THE STRENGTH, DEDICATION, AND PERSEVERANCE OF OUR SAILORS AND PERSEVERANCE OF OUR SAILORS AND OUR ARMED FORCES FROM, YOU KNOW, OUR ARMED FORCES FROM, YOU KNOW, THE DAYS OF 1812 ALL THE WAY THE DAYS OF 1812 ALL THE WAY THROUGH TODAY, THEY ALWAYS JUST THROUGH TODAY, THEY ALWAYS JUST LEAVE VERY IN AWE OF THE SHIP LEAVE VERY IN AWE OF THE SHIP AND THE MISSION AND WHAT SHE HAS AND THE MISSION AND WHAT SHE HAS ACCOMPLISHED IN HER TIME.
ACCOMPLISHED IN HER TIME.
>> I'M THE CAPTAIN OF THE SHIP, >> I'M THE CAPTAIN OF THE SHIP, COMMANDER FARRELL.
COMMANDER FARRELL.
>> I THINK FOR ME, IT'S ABOUT >> I THINK FOR ME, IT'S ABOUT JUST BEING ACCESSIBLE.
JUST BEING ACCESSIBLE.
FOR ME I WAS ALMOST ALWAYS THE FOR ME I WAS ALMOST ALWAYS THE SENIOR WOMAN IN MY COMMAND.
SENIOR WOMAN IN MY COMMAND.
I KNEW THERE WERE WOMEN IN I KNEW THERE WERE WOMEN IN COMMAND OF SHIPS.
COMMAND OF SHIPS.
JUST BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE THEM JUST BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE THEM DIDN'T MEAN THAT IT WASN'TS POG.
DIDN'T MEAN THAT IT WASN'TS POG.
-- WASN'T POSSIBLE.
-- WASN'T POSSIBLE.
TO BE HERE AND BE ACCESSIBLE TO TO BE HERE AND BE ACCESSIBLE TO THE NEXT GENERATION TO SEE IF A THE NEXT GENERATION TO SEE IF A YOU CAN DO -- THAT YOU CAN DO YOU CAN DO -- THAT YOU CAN DO THIS.
THIS.
IF YOU WANT TO COMMAND A SHIP, IF YOU WANT TO COMMAND A SHIP, YOU CAN DO IT.
YOU CAN DO IT.
IT'S NICE TO BE THE PERSON THAT IT'S NICE TO BE THE PERSON THAT THEY CAN SEE AND IF THEY NEED TO THEY CAN SEE AND IF THEY NEED TO RELATE TO THAT, AGAIN, IT'S VERY RELATE TO THAT, AGAIN, IT'S VERY HUMBLING BECAUSE I'VE HAD LITTLE HUMBLING BECAUSE I'VE HAD LITTLE GIRLS COME UP AND ASKED ME TO -- GIRLS COME UP AND ASKED ME TO -- TO GIVE ME A HUG AND IT MAKES ME TO GIVE ME A HUG AND IT MAKES ME TAKE A STEP BACK AND PUT THINGS TAKE A STEP BACK AND PUT THINGS IN PERSPECTIVE.
IN PERSPECTIVE.
♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >>> THE HARRIETE CENTER IN >>> THE HARRIETE CENTER IN HARTFORD RECENTLY HOSTED A HARTFORD RECENTLY HOSTED A LECTURE EXPLORING HOW TO LECTURE EXPLORING HOW TO APPROACH POSSIBLE LGBTQ I ACTION APPROACH POSSIBLE LGBTQ I ACTION PLUS RELATIONSHIPS AND THEMES IN PLUS RELATIONSHIPS AND THEMES IN THE WORKS OF ARTISTS WHO DID NOT THE WORKS OF ARTISTS WHO DID NOT SELF-IDENTIFY.
SELF-IDENTIFY.
THE DISCUSSION WAS PROMPTED BY THE DISCUSSION WAS PROMPTED BY NEW RESEARCH ABOUT STOWE'S GREAT NEW RESEARCH ABOUT STOWE'S GREAT NIECE, KATHERINE SEYMOUR DAY.
NIECE, KATHERINE SEYMOUR DAY.
I SPOKE WITH AMY HUFNAGEL, THE I SPOKE WITH AMY HUFNAGEL, THE DIRECTOR OF PROGRAMMING AT THE DIRECTOR OF PROGRAMMING AT THE STOWE CENTER TO LEARN MORE ABOUT STOWE CENTER TO LEARN MORE ABOUT HOW MUSEUMS ARE HANDLING THE HOW MUSEUMS ARE HANDLING THE COMPLEX ETHICS SURROUNDING COMPLEX ETHICS SURROUNDING UNTOLD QUEER HISTORIES AND UNTOLD QUEER HISTORIES AND INTERPRETING THE SEXUALITY OF INTERPRETING THE SEXUALITY OF WOMEN IN THE EARLY 20TH CENTURY.
WOMEN IN THE EARLY 20TH CENTURY.
>> THE STOWE CENTER INTERPRETS >> THE STOWE CENTER INTERPRETS HARRIET BEECHER STOWEE'S LIFE.
HARRIET BEECHER STOWEE'S LIFE.
AND HER GREAT-NIECE IS KATHERINE AND HER GREAT-NIECE IS KATHERINE SEA MORE DAY.
SEA MORE DAY.
AND -- SEYMOUR DAY.
AND -- SEYMOUR DAY.
SO RELATED TO THE BEECHER SO RELATED TO THE BEECHER FAMILY.
FAMILY.
AND WAS REALLY THE DRIVING FORCE AND WAS REALLY THE DRIVING FORCE THAT PRESERVED ALL OF THAT NOOK THAT PRESERVED ALL OF THAT NOOK FARM BLOCK OF HART FEDERAL.
FARM BLOCK OF HART FEDERAL.
SO SHE BOUGHT STOW'S HOUSE BACK SO SHE BOUGHT STOW'S HOUSE BACK AND SHE BOUGHT AND WORKED ON AND SHE BOUGHT AND WORKED ON PRESERVING MARK TWAIN'S HOUSE.
PRESERVING MARK TWAIN'S HOUSE.
THE CARRIAGE HOUSES, AND THE THE CARRIAGE HOUSES, AND THE CORNER PROPERTY, WHICH IS NOW CORNER PROPERTY, WHICH IS NOW CALLED THE KATHERINE SEYMOUR CALLED THE KATHERINE SEYMOUR DAY, THAT IS THE CHAMBERLAIN DAY, THAT IS THE CHAMBERLAIN PROPERTY ORIGINALLY.
PROPERTY ORIGINALLY.
>> AND SO RIGHT NOW, CT >> AND SO RIGHT NOW, CT HUMANITIES HAS FUNDED A PROJECT HUMANITIES HAS FUNDED A PROJECT AROUND KATHERINE SEYMOUR DAY AND AROUND KATHERINE SEYMOUR DAY AND HER IDENTITY WITH THE CONTEXT OF HER IDENTITY WITH THE CONTEXT OF GENDER AND FEMALE SEXUALITY.
GENDER AND FEMALE SEXUALITY.
WHAT EVEN SITES HAVE -- INSIGHTS WHAT EVEN SITES HAVE -- INSIGHTS HAVE SO FAR EMERGED?
HAVE SO FAR EMERGED?
>> HE'S A COMPLEX WOMAN.
>> HE'S A COMPLEX WOMAN.
AND A LOT OF HER COLLECTIONS AND AND A LOT OF HER COLLECTIONS AND LETTERS ARE SAVED.
LETTERS ARE SAVED.
SHE NEVER MARRIED.
SHE NEVER MARRIED.
SHE HAD MANY LONG -- YOU KNOW, SHE HAD MANY LONG -- YOU KNOW, FRIENDSHIPS THAT WENT ON FOR FRIENDSHIPS THAT WENT ON FOR YEARS AND WERE QUITE INTIMATE.
YEARS AND WERE QUITE INTIMATE.
AND FROM WERE A NUMBER OF THINGS AND FROM WERE A NUMBER OF THINGS IN THE ARCHIVE THAT MADE US IN THE ARCHIVE THAT MADE US WONDER ABOUT HER SEXUALITY AND WONDER ABOUT HER SEXUALITY AND HER IDENTITY.
HER IDENTITY.
IT'S COMPLICATED TO DO HISTORY IT'S COMPLICATED TO DO HISTORY LIKE THIS WELL AND WE DIDN'T LIKE THIS WELL AND WE DIDN'T JUST WANT TO SURMISE OR GUESS ON JUST WANT TO SURMISE OR GUESS ON THIS, RIGHT?
THIS, RIGHT?
AND SHE CERTAINLY DIDN'T CHOOSE AND SHE CERTAINLY DIDN'T CHOOSE TO BE OUT IN HER OWN LIFE.
TO BE OUT IN HER OWN LIFE.
THEN WHAT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY THEN WHAT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS AN ORGANIZATION TO OUT HER AS AN ORGANIZATION TO OUT HER NOW.
NOW.
AND SO WE STARTED ASKING AND SO WE STARTED ASKING OURSELVES A LOT OF REALLY OURSELVES A LOT OF REALLY COMPLICATED QUESTIONS ABOUT WHO COMPLICATED QUESTIONS ABOUT WHO COULD WE RETURN TO DO REALLY COULD WE RETURN TO DO REALLY GOOD AND RESPONSIBLE AND ETHICAL GOOD AND RESPONSIBLE AND ETHICAL HISTORY THAT WOULD BE A POSITIVE HISTORY THAT WOULD BE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE LGBTQ+ COMMUNITIES IMPACT ON THE LGBTQ+ COMMUNITIES RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT WAS SORT OF JUST WE DON'T THAT WAS SORT OF JUST WE DON'T KNOW, KIND OF ANSWER.
KNOW, KIND OF ANSWER.
>> SUCH AN INTERESTING POINT TO >> SUCH AN INTERESTING POINT TO BRING UPON THIS ABOUT IF SHE BRING UPON THIS ABOUT IF SHE WASN'T OUTING HERSELF IN THAT WASN'T OUTING HERSELF IN THAT TIME, WHO ARE WE TO OUT HER NOW.
TIME, WHO ARE WE TO OUT HER NOW.
AND IT'S CHALLENGING BECAUSE THE AND IT'S CHALLENGING BECAUSE THE HISTORIANS RESEARCHING THIS ARE HISTORIANS RESEARCHING THIS ARE INEVITABLY VIEWING THIS THROUGH INEVITABLY VIEWING THIS THROUGH A 21ST CENTURY LENS.
A 21ST CENTURY LENS.
AND SO CAN YOU ELABORATE A AND SO CAN YOU ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON HOW LITTLE BIT MORE ON HOW CHALLENGING IT IS TO INTERPRET CHALLENGING IT IS TO INTERPRET RELATIONSHIPS AS BEING LGBTQ+ RELATIONSHIPS AS BEING LGBTQ+ WHEN YOU AREN'T EVEN SURE DID WHEN YOU AREN'T EVEN SURE DID THAT INDIVIDUAL IDENTIFY AS THAT INDIVIDUAL IDENTIFY AS SUCH.
SUCH.
WHAT ARE THETH CAL DILEMM -- WHAT ARE THETH CAL DILEMM -- ETHICAL DILEMM YEAS -- DILEMMAS ETHICAL DILEMM YEAS -- DILEMMAS YOU'RE FINDING?
YOU'RE FINDING?
>> YOU CAN'T PUT OUR >> YOU CAN'T PUT OUR 21ST CENTURY LENS ON THE 21ST CENTURY LENS ON THE KATHERINE'S LIFE BECAUSE THE WAY KATHERINE'S LIFE BECAUSE THE WAY SHE USES LANGUAGE, FOR INSTANCE, SHE USES LANGUAGE, FOR INSTANCE, IN COMMUNICATING WITH A FRIEND IN COMMUNICATING WITH A FRIEND IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN YOU IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN YOU OR I MIGHT USE WITH A LANGUAGE.
OR I MIGHT USE WITH A LANGUAGE.
IT'S MUCH MORE WITH A FRIEND.
IT'S MUCH MORE WITH A FRIEND.
IT'S MUCH MORE AFFECTIONATE.
IT'S MUCH MORE AFFECTIONATE.
IT'S MORE ELABORATE.
IT'S MORE ELABORATE.
AND FULL OF LIKE -- LIKE OVERT AND FULL OF LIKE -- LIKE OVERT CARE FOR.
CARE FOR.
YOU KNOW, THESE ARE ALL THINGS YOU KNOW, THESE ARE ALL THINGS WE WOULD ALIGN WITH A MORE WE WOULD ALIGN WITH A MORE INTIMATE RELATIONSHIP TODAY.
INTIMATE RELATIONSHIP TODAY.
>> YES.
>> YES.
>> WHEREAS AT THE TIME IN THE >> WHEREAS AT THE TIME IN THE 19TH CENTURY AND TURN OF THE 19TH CENTURY AND TURN OF THE 20TH CENTURY, IT WAS REALLY JUST 20TH CENTURY, IT WAS REALLY JUST A SIGN OF BEAUTIFUL FRIENDSHIP, A SIGN OF BEAUTIFUL FRIENDSHIP, RIGHT?
RIGHT?
SO THAT'S KIND OF ONE EXAMPLE.
SO THAT'S KIND OF ONE EXAMPLE.
WE TURN TO A SCHOLAR, SUSAN WE TURN TO A SCHOLAR, SUSAN FARINTINOS, WHO IS AN EXPERT IN FARINTINOS, WHO IS AN EXPERT IN THIS TOPIC.
THIS TOPIC.
AND SHE CAME TO THE STOWE CENTER AND SHE CAME TO THE STOWE CENTER FROM DOING RESEARCH AROUND FROM DOING RESEARCH AROUND ELEANOR ROOSEVELT.
ELEANOR ROOSEVELT.
ELEANOR ROOSEVELT IS ANOTHER ELEANOR ROOSEVELT IS ANOTHER SORT OF BEAUTIFUL MEMBER OF OUR SORT OF BEAUTIFUL MEMBER OF OUR HIS TURTLENECK HIMSELF -- HIS TURTLENECK HIMSELF -- HISTORIC WOMEN'S HISTORY HISTORIC WOMEN'S HISTORY COMMUNITY WHOSE IDENTITY AND HER COMMUNITY WHOSE IDENTITY AND HER RELATIONSHIPS ARE SOMEWHAT RELATIONSHIPS ARE SOMEWHAT CONFOUNDING TO HIS TORANSES -- CONFOUNDING TO HIS TORANSES -- HISTORIANS, RIGHT?
HISTORIANS, RIGHT?
SUSAN IS AN EXPERT IN THIS FIELD SUSAN IS AN EXPERT IN THIS FIELD AND WHAT'S BEAUTIFUL ABOUT WHAT AND WHAT'S BEAUTIFUL ABOUT WHAT SHE DOES IS SHE BRINGS ALL THE SHE DOES IS SHE BRINGS ALL THE GIGANTIC HISTORICAL INFORMATION, GIGANTIC HISTORICAL INFORMATION, THIS IS HER EXPERTISE, AND SHE THIS IS HER EXPERTISE, AND SHE LAYERS ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS LAYERS ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE KNOW ON TO THE THAT WE KNOW ON TO THE INDIVIDUAL.
INDIVIDUAL.
SO YOU'RE NOT JUST LOOKING AT SO YOU'RE NOT JUST LOOKING AT THE INDIVIDUAL'S LETTERS PER SE.
THE INDIVIDUAL'S LETTERS PER SE.
BUT YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE BUT YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE INDIVIDUAL'S LETTERS IN THE INDIVIDUAL'S LETTERS IN THE CONTEXT OF THIS MASSIVE ARCHIVE.
CONTEXT OF THIS MASSIVE ARCHIVE.
>> AND THAT'S IMPORTANT, TO KIND >> AND THAT'S IMPORTANT, TO KIND OF HAVE ALL THIS CONTEXT, RIGHT?
OF HAVE ALL THIS CONTEXT, RIGHT?
>> 100%.
>> 100%.
YEAH.
YEAH.
AND IN FACT, SO MANY AND IN FACT, SO MANY ORGANIZATIONS WERE SORT OF ORGANIZATIONS WERE SORT OF STRUGGLING WITH THESE ISSUES OF STRUGGLING WITH THESE ISSUES OF HOW TO DO THIS ETHICAL AND HOW TO DO THIS ETHICAL AND RESPONSIBLE HISTORY TELLING THAT RESPONSIBLE HISTORY TELLING THAT SHE ACTUALLY AUTHORED A BOOK SHE ACTUALLY AUTHORED A BOOK CALLED, "INTERPRETING LGBTQ CALLED, "INTERPRETING LGBTQ HISTORY AT MUSEUMS AND HISTORIC HISTORY AT MUSEUMS AND HISTORIC SITES."
SITES."
AND IT'S KIND OF LIKE THIS AND IT'S KIND OF LIKE THIS REALLY IMPORTANT TEXT THAT REALLY IMPORTANT TEXT THAT ORGANIZATIONS GO TO IF THEY'RE ORGANIZATIONS GO TO IF THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT DOING THIS KIND THINKING ABOUT DOING THIS KIND OF WORK.
OF WORK.
>> IT'S SUCH A COMPLEX SITUATION >> IT'S SUCH A COMPLEX SITUATION AS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.
AS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.
AND SO YEAH, I WAS WONDERING AND SO YEAH, I WAS WONDERING ABOUT SOME OF THOSE GUIDELINES ABOUT SOME OF THOSE GUIDELINES THAT ARE SUGGESTED FOR MUSEUMS THAT ARE SUGGESTED FOR MUSEUMS AND INSTITUTIONS SUCH AS THE AND INSTITUTIONS SUCH AS THE STOWE CENTER TO ALLOW THEM TO STOWE CENTER TO ALLOW THEM TO TELL THESE STORIES THAT MAY HAVE TELL THESE STORIES THAT MAY HAVE BEEN HIDDEN OR ERASED OR PEOPLE BEEN HIDDEN OR ERASED OR PEOPLE WERE AFRAID TO COME THROUGH.
WERE AFRAID TO COME THROUGH.
SO WHAT ARE SOME OF THOSE SO WHAT ARE SOME OF THOSE GUIDELINES THAT YOU CAN FOLLOW GUIDELINES THAT YOU CAN FOLLOW GOING FORWARD?
GOING FORWARD?
>> HERE'S THE SORT OF BASIC >> HERE'S THE SORT OF BASIC THING.
THING.
YOU JUST CAN'T READ BETWEEN THE YOU JUST CAN'T READ BETWEEN THE LINES, SO TO SPEAK.
LINES, SO TO SPEAK.
>> UH-HUH.
>> UH-HUH.
>> RIGHT?
>> RIGHT?
YOU HAVE TO HAVE DIRECT WRITTEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE DIRECT WRITTEN OR DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE OF THE OR DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE OF THE NATURE OF THE RELATIONSHIP.
NATURE OF THE RELATIONSHIP.
AND YOU KNOW, JUST SURMISING AND YOU KNOW, JUST SURMISING THAT IT COULD BE IS JUST NOT THAT IT COULD BE IS JUST NOT GOOD HISTORY.
GOOD HISTORY.
SO I THINK THE MAIN POINT FOR SO I THINK THE MAIN POINT FOR AUDIENCES TO HEAR TODAY IS YOU AUDIENCES TO HEAR TODAY IS YOU KNOW, SPECULATION IS OUT.
KNOW, SPECULATION IS OUT.
HA-HA.
HA-HA.
>> IT'S THAT SIMPLE AS THAT.
>> IT'S THAT SIMPLE AS THAT.
>> IT'S AS SIMPLE AS THAT, YEAH.
>> IT'S AS SIMPLE AS THAT, YEAH.
>> WITH THIS NEW INSIGHT AROUND >> WITH THIS NEW INSIGHT AROUND KATHERINE AND HER SEXUALITY KATHERINE AND HER SEXUALITY POSSIBLY, HOW COULD THAT HAVE POSSIBLY, HOW COULD THAT HAVE INFLUENCED HER WORK AS AN INFLUENCED HER WORK AS AN ACTIVIST AND A PROMOTER OF ACTIVIST AND A PROMOTER OF WOMEN'S RIGHTS?
WOMEN'S RIGHTS?
>> I JUST THINK SHE WAS AN >> I JUST THINK SHE WAS AN MAY -- AMAZING FORWARD-THINKING MAY -- AMAZING FORWARD-THINKING WOMAN IN GENERAL AND SHE WAS WOMAN IN GENERAL AND SHE WAS CHOOSING TO DO REALLY GOOD CHOOSING TO DO REALLY GOOD IMPORTANT CULTURAL WORK AT A IMPORTANT CULTURAL WORK AT A TIME WHEN WOMEN AND WORK WAS A TIME WHEN WOMEN AND WORK WAS A COMPLICATED ISSUE AND IN AND OF COMPLICATED ISSUE AND IN AND OF ITSELF NOT STRAIGHTFORWARD, ITSELF NOT STRAIGHTFORWARD, RIGHT?
RIGHT?
WOMEN DIDN'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO WOMEN DIDN'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE.
VOTE.
THEY WERE EXPECTED -- EXPECTED THEY WERE EXPECTED -- EXPECTED TO MARRY.
TO MARRY.
THEY WERE EXPECTED TO HALL THEY WERE EXPECTED TO HALL PROPERTY, MOVE FROM MALE TO PROPERTY, MOVE FROM MALE TO MALE.
MALE.
THERE WAS A LOT OF THINGS SHE THERE WAS A LOT OF THINGS SHE WAS PUSHING UP AGAINST BESIDES WAS PUSHING UP AGAINST BESIDES THE SEXUALITY QUESTION.
THE SEXUALITY QUESTION.
SO WHAT WE LOVE ABOUT SO WHAT WE LOVE ABOUT INTERPRETING HER IS ALL OF THE INTERPRETING HER IS ALL OF THE WAYS IN WHICH SHE WAS PUSHING WAYS IN WHICH SHE WAS PUSHING OUTSIDE THE BOUNDARIES OF OUTSIDE THE BOUNDARIES OF NORMATIVE BEHAVIOR FOR A WOMAN.
NORMATIVE BEHAVIOR FOR A WOMAN.
YOU KNOW, SHE WENT TO EUROPE AND YOU KNOW, SHE WENT TO EUROPE AND STUDIED PAINTING AND SHE WAS A STUDIED PAINTING AND SHE WAS A REALLY AMAZING PAINTER.
REALLY AMAZING PAINTER.
AND SO SHE WAS ALSO ENGAGED NOT AND SO SHE WAS ALSO ENGAGED NOT JUST IN HISTORY BUT IN THE ARTS.
JUST IN HISTORY BUT IN THE ARTS.
AND SHE REALLY LOVED THIS IDEA AND SHE REALLY LOVED THIS IDEA OF THE CREATIVE ENDEAVOR, WHICH OF THE CREATIVE ENDEAVOR, WHICH OF COURSE COMES FROM HARRIET TOO OF COURSE COMES FROM HARRIET TOO WHO ALSO FELT LIKE SHE SHOULD WHO ALSO FELT LIKE SHE SHOULD USE HER CREATIVE ENDEAVOR TO USE HER CREATIVE ENDEAVOR TO MAKE THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE.
MAKE THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE.
AND SO THAT HAD TO BE PART OF AND SO THAT HAD TO BE PART OF THE LINEAGE THAT SHE ABSORBED THE LINEAGE THAT SHE ABSORBED FROM HER GREAT-AUNT, RIGHT.
FROM HER GREAT-AUNT, RIGHT.
AND THE LINEAGE THAT WE ABSORB AND THE LINEAGE THAT WE ABSORB TODAY WHICH IS WE'RE STILL TODAY WHICH IS WE'RE STILL TRYING TO TELL HISTORY AND DO TRYING TO TELL HISTORY AND DO GOOD CULTURE WORK TO MAKE THE GOOD CULTURE WORK TO MAKE THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE AND TO WORLD A BETTER PLACE AND TO ENCOURAGE SOCIAL JUSTICE AND ENCOURAGE SOCIAL JUSTICE AND POSITIVE REFORM IN OUR COUNTRY.
POSITIVE REFORM IN OUR COUNTRY.
♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >>> DREW PHILLIPS' CAREER AS A >>> DREW PHILLIPS' CAREER AS A BEER MAKER BEGAN OVER A DECADE BEER MAKER BEGAN OVER A DECADE AGO ON THE WEST COAST AS AN AGO ON THE WEST COAST AS AN OUT-OF-WORK SCHOOL TEACHER.
OUT-OF-WORK SCHOOL TEACHER.
AS HIS PASSION FOR BREWING GREW, AS HIS PASSION FOR BREWING GREW, HE MOVED TO WESTERN HE MOVED TO WESTERN MASSACHUSETTS AND EVENTUALLY MASSACHUSETTS AND EVENTUALLY BROUGHT HIS OWN BEER TO THE BROUGHT HIS OWN BEER TO THE MARKET IN 2019.
MARKET IN 2019.
TWO YEARS LATER ON HALLOWEEN TWO YEARS LATER ON HALLOWEEN NIGHT, PHILLIPS AND HIS WIFE NIGHT, PHILLIPS AND HIS WIFE OPENED THE DOORS OF THE APTLY OPENED THE DOORS OF THE APTLY NAME FOUR PHANTOMS BREWERIE IN NAME FOUR PHANTOMS BREWERIE IN GREENFIELD.
GREENFIELD.
"CONNECTING POINT'S" BRIAN "CONNECTING POINT'S" BRIAN SULLIVAN BRINGS US THE STORY.
SULLIVAN BRINGS US THE STORY.
>> WHEN FRIDAY ROLLS AROUND IN >> WHEN FRIDAY ROLLS AROUND IN ANYTOWN USA, IT'S NEVER A ANYTOWN USA, IT'S NEVER A SURPRISE TO SEE A CROWD SIZE AT SURPRISE TO SEE A CROWD SIZE AT A LOCAL PUB.
A LOCAL PUB.
IT IS FRIDAY.
IT IS FRIDAY.
>> THERE'S A BREWHOUSE IN TOWN >> THERE'S A BREWHOUSE IN TOWN THAT'S DONE ITS PART TO MAKE THAT'S DONE ITS PART TO MAKE ITSELF KNOWN AS THE LOCAL AND ITSELF KNOWN AS THE LOCAL AND THEY'VE DONE SO WITHOUT ONE THEY'VE DONE SO WITHOUT ONE MAJOR COMPONENT.
MAJOR COMPONENT.
>> WE VERY LIB RATTILY -- >> WE VERY LIB RATTILY -- DELIBERATELY DIDN'T WANT TOP -- DELIBERATELY DIDN'T WANT TOP -- [INAUDIBLE] WE WERE THINKING, MY [INAUDIBLE] WE WERE THINKING, MY TIME IN VARIOUS PUBS AND THINGS TIME IN VARIOUS PUBS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT HAD MORE LIKE A LIKE THAT THAT HAD MORE LIKE A FAMILY OR COMMUNITY FEEL VERSUS, FAMILY OR COMMUNITY FEEL VERSUS, YEAH, A PLACE YOU GO, YOU SIT YEAH, A PLACE YOU GO, YOU SIT WITH YOUR PEOPLE, WATCH THE WITH YOUR PEOPLE, WATCH THE GAME, YOU KNOW, AND MAYBE DON'T GAME, YOU KNOW, AND MAYBE DON'T INTERACT WITH ANYBODY ELSE INTERACT WITH ANYBODY ELSE BESIDES YOUR BARTENDER.
BESIDES YOUR BARTENDER.
WE WANTED THIS PLACE TO HAVE A WE WANTED THIS PLACE TO HAVE A COMMUNITY FEEL WHERE YOU WALK COMMUNITY FEEL WHERE YOU WALK IN, YOU SEE PEOPLE YOU KNOW, YOU IN, YOU SEE PEOPLE YOU KNOW, YOU SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW.
SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW.
WE WANT TO BE LIKE GREEN FIELD'S WE WANT TO BE LIKE GREEN FIELD'S LIVING ROOM A LITTLE BIT.
LIVING ROOM A LITTLE BIT.
>> WHAT BETTER WAY TO CREATE >> WHAT BETTER WAY TO CREATE THAT FEEL THAN WHEN THE PIZZA, A THAT FEEL THAN WHEN THE PIZZA, A GLASS OF SUDS, AND A BUNCH OF GLASS OF SUDS, AND A BUNCH OF FRIENDS PLAYING BOAR GAMES.
FRIENDS PLAYING BOAR GAMES.
SOUND FARFETCHED?
SOUND FARFETCHED?
ON EVERY OTHER FRIDAY NIGHT ON EVERY OTHER FRIDAY NIGHT AROUND HERE, IT'S THE NORM.
AROUND HERE, IT'S THE NORM.
IT LOOKS PRETTY FUN.
IT LOOKS PRETTY FUN.
>> THIS WAS A GROUP OF FRIENDS >> THIS WAS A GROUP OF FRIENDS THAT REALLY ENJOYED PLAYING THAT REALLY ENJOYED PLAYING BOARD GAMES.
BOARD GAMES.
AND REALLY WANTED AN OUTLET TO AND REALLY WANTED AN OUTLET TO GET TOGETHER ON A REGULAR BASIS GET TOGETHER ON A REGULAR BASIS AND PLAY GAMES.
AND PLAY GAMES.
AND FOUR PHANTOMS BEING A LOCAL AND FOUR PHANTOMS BEING A LOCAL BREWERI THAT -- BREWERY THAT BREWERI THAT -- BREWERY THAT WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE CORE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE CORE GROUP THAT WANTED TO GET GROUP THAT WANTED TO GET TOGETHER WAS VERY GRACIOUS IN TOGETHER WAS VERY GRACIOUS IN ALLOWING US TO GO AND COME HERE ALLOWING US TO GO AND COME HERE AND PLAY GAMES AND YEAH, IT'S AND PLAY GAMES AND YEAH, IT'S JUST REALLY GREAT FOR THE LOCAL JUST REALLY GREAT FOR THE LOCAL BUSINESS AND TO SUPPORT THEM AND BUSINESS AND TO SUPPORT THEM AND IT'S REALLY GREAT FOR US TO ALL IT'S REALLY GREAT FOR US TO ALL HAVE AN EXCUSE TO GET TOGETHER HAVE AN EXCUSE TO GET TOGETHER ON A REGULAR BASIS AND ENJOY THE ON A REGULAR BASIS AND ENJOY THE COMPANY AND HAVE FRIENDS.
COMPANY AND HAVE FRIENDS.
>> HERE FOUR PHANTOMS, WHO'S >> HERE FOUR PHANTOMS, WHO'S NAME IS A NOD TO THE -- WHOSE NAME IS A NOD TO THE -- WHOSE NAME IS A NOD TO THE FEWER NAME IS A NOD TO THE FEWER SEASONS -- FOUR SEASONS, IT'S A SEASONS -- FOUR SEASONS, IT'S A CROWD THAT'S NEVER SEEN THE CROWD THAT'S NEVER SEEN THE BUILDING WHICH IT -- WHEN IT BUILDING WHICH IT -- WHEN IT LOOKS LIKE THIS.
LOOKS LIKE THIS.
FOUR PHANTOMS IS RUN OF THE -- FOUR PHANTOMS IS RUN OF THE -- ONE OF THE PLACES THAT ONLY SEEM ONE OF THE PLACES THAT ONLY SEEM TO KNOW ABOUT AFTER THE SUN GOES TO KNOW ABOUT AFTER THE SUN GOES DOWN.
DOWN.
THERE IS A DAYTIME OPERATION THERE IS A DAYTIME OPERATION HERE.
HERE.
FOR RIGHT NOW, IT'S A ONE-MAN FOR RIGHT NOW, IT'S A ONE-MAN SHOW.
SHOW.
OF COURSE, IT'S NOT ALWAYS OF COURSE, IT'S NOT ALWAYS GLAMOROUS BEER MAKING THAT GOES GLAMOROUS BEER MAKING THAT GOES ON HERE.
ON HERE.
SOMETIMES LIKE THE DAY THAT WE SOMETIMES LIKE THE DAY THAT WE STOPPED IN, WE HAVE WHAT DREW STOPPED IN, WE HAVE WHAT DREW PHILLIPS REFERS TO AS A SELLER PHILLIPS REFERS TO AS A SELLER DAY.
DAY.
>> WHEN YOU HAVE A SELLER DAY, >> WHEN YOU HAVE A SELLER DAY, THAT'S MOSTLY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S MOSTLY, YOU KNOW, CLEANING UP.
CLEANING UP.
IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING BROKEN, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING BROKEN, THAT'S THE DAY TO FIX IT.
THAT'S THE DAY TO FIX IT.
IF YOU NEEDS KEGS WASHED, THAT'S IF YOU NEEDS KEGS WASHED, THAT'S THE DAY YOU DO IT.
THE DAY YOU DO IT.
IF YOU NEED TO CLEAN TANKS OR IF YOU NEED TO CLEAN TANKS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT -- THINGS SOMETHING LIKE THAT -- THINGS LIKE THAT.
LIKE THAT.
SO SMINNING -- SPINNING PLATES, SO SMINNING -- SPINNING PLATES, CHECK OGBEER THAT'S IN TANK -- CHECK OGBEER THAT'S IN TANK -- CHECKING ON BEAR THAT'S IN TANK, CHECKING ON BEAR THAT'S IN TANK, MAYBE YOU'RE CLEANING A TANK AND MAYBE YOU'RE CLEANING A TANK AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
STUFF LIKE THAT.
YEAH, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, DOING YEAH, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, DOING TWO DELIVERIES TODAY ON TOP OF TWO DELIVERIES TODAY ON TOP OF THAT.
THAT.
>> WHEN PHILLIPS AND HIS WIPE >> WHEN PHILLIPS AND HIS WIPE OPENED THE BUSINESS IN THE OPENED THE BUSINESS IN THE FALL -- WIFE OPENED THE BUSINESS FALL -- WIFE OPENED THE BUSINESS IN THE FALL OF 2021, HE LEFT THE IN THE FALL OF 2021, HE LEFT THE CORPORATE WORLD TO PER YOU SUE CORPORATE WORLD TO PER YOU SUE ENTREPRENEURSHIP WHERE THE ENTREPRENEURSHIP WHERE THE REWARD WAS OPTIMIZED OH THE REWARD WAS OPTIMIZED OH THE RISK.
RISK.
WHEN IT WOULD LEL LIKE THEY WERE WHEN IT WOULD LEL LIKE THEY WERE JUST -- FEEL LIKE THEY WERE JUST JUST -- FEEL LIKE THEY WERE JUST CHASING DOLLAR BILLS.
CHASING DOLLAR BILLS.
>> THOSE ARE THE DOWN MOMENTS >> THOSE ARE THE DOWN MOMENTS WHEN THE MOSTLY SUNNY IS SCARY WHEN THE MOSTLY SUNNY IS SCARY AND WE'RE FIGURING OUT HOW TO AND WE'RE FIGURING OUT HOW TO MAKE PAROLE.
MAKE PAROLE.
BUT THE REALLY HIGH MOMENTS WHEN BUT THE REALLY HIGH MOMENTS WHEN YOU SEE THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU YOU SEE THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU BUILD AROUND A PLACE LIKE THIS, BUILD AROUND A PLACE LIKE THIS, YOU KNOW.
YOU KNOW.
WE HAD A GUY WHO'S BEEN BRINGING WE HAD A GUY WHO'S BEEN BRINGING HIS PUPPY, YOU KNOW, IN EVER HIS PUPPY, YOU KNOW, IN EVER SINCE THE DAY HE ADOPTED IT.
SINCE THE DAY HE ADOPTED IT.
PEOPLE ARE MAKING MEMORIES HERE.
PEOPLE ARE MAKING MEMORIES HERE.
WE'RE BUILDING COMMUNITY.
WE'RE BUILDING COMMUNITY.
[LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] >> PEOPLE HAVE MET THEIR FRIENDS >> PEOPLE HAVE MET THEIR FRIENDS AND YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT.
IN OUR PUB.
IN OUR PUB.
SO THOSE ARE THE REALLY SO THOSE ARE THE REALLY IMPORTANT MOMENTS WHERE YOU SEE IMPORTANT MOMENTS WHERE YOU SEE THE COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE THE COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE ESTABLISHING HERE AND THE JOY ESTABLISHING HERE AND THE JOY THAT PEOPLE GET OUT OF COMING THAT PEOPLE GET OUT OF COMING INTO THIS SPACE.
INTO THIS SPACE.
>> AND WHEN WE STOPPED IN, THAT >> AND WHEN WE STOPPED IN, THAT INCLUDED EVERYONE FROM THE BAR INCLUDED EVERYONE FROM THE BAR TAY TRONS AND THE GAME -- TAY TRONS AND THE GAME -- PATRONS AND THE GAME PLAYERS PATRONS AND THE GAME PLAYERS RIGHT DOWN TO THE HOISTS -- RIGHT DOWN TO THE HOISTS -- HOSTS.
HOSTS.
>> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ME >> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO COUNT ON THIS TO BE ABLE TO COUNT ON THIS EVERY OTHER WEEK AND I KNOW -- I EVERY OTHER WEEK AND I KNOW -- I KNOW I HAVE THIS GAME TIME SET KNOW I HAVE THIS GAME TIME SET ASIDE TO CONNECT WITH PEOPLE AND ASIDE TO CONNECT WITH PEOPLE AND SOCIALIZE AGAIN.
SOCIALIZE AGAIN.
AND KIND OF GET HOUSE OF THE AND KIND OF GET HOUSE OF THE HOUSE WHEN THE LAST COUPLE OF HOUSE WHEN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS REALLY PERPETUATED PEOPLE YEARS REALLY PERPETUATED PEOPLE STAYING AT HOME AND JUST STAYING AT HOME AND JUST WATCHING TV AND LOOKING AT YOUR WATCHING TV AND LOOKING AT YOUR PHONES OR DOING THINGS AND PHONES OR DOING THINGS AND SOCIETY HAS BECOME MORE SOCIETY HAS BECOME MORE DEPENDENT ON THAT.
DEPENDENT ON THAT.
SO THIS, NO ONE LOOKS AT SO THIS, NO ONE LOOKS AT ANYTHING TECHNOLOGY-WISE WHEN ANYTHING TECHNOLOGY-WISE WHEN DOING IT.
DOING IT.
AND IT'S REALLY CREATIVE AND AND IT'S REALLY CREATIVE AND INTERESTING WAYS TO LIKE INTERESTING WAYS TO LIKE SOCIALIZE WITH PEOPLE, BUT ALSO SOCIALIZE WITH PEOPLE, BUT ALSO BE ENTERTAINED.
BE ENTERTAINED.
♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >>> THE RECENT EXHIBITION >>> THE RECENT EXHIBITION SOMETHING EXTRAORDINARY, A SOMETHING EXTRAORDINARY, A VISUAL REVIEW OF STORY AS VISUAL REVIEW OF STORY AS TIMELESS, DELVES INTO THE TIMELESS, DELVES INTO THE PROCESS OF VISUAL STORY TELLING PROCESS OF VISUAL STORY TELLING AND EXAMINES BLACK HISTORY AND EXAMINES BLACK HISTORY THROUGH THE LENS OF EIGHT BLACK THROUGH THE LENS OF EIGHT BLACK ARTISTS.
ARTISTS.
LAST WEEK WE INTRODUCED YOU TO LAST WEEK WE INTRODUCED YOU TO THREE OF THE ARTISTS ON DISPLAY THREE OF THE ARTISTS ON DISPLAY AT WESTFIELD STATE UNIVERSITY AT WESTFIELD STATE UNIVERSITY AND THIS WEEK WE CONTINUE WITH AND THIS WEEK WE CONTINUE WITH PART 2 OF OUR DISCUSSION, PART 2 OF OUR DISCUSSION, EXPLORING HOW THE PROJECT EXPLORING HOW THE PROJECT FOSTERS UNITY AND THE FOSTERS UNITY AND THE INSPIRATIONS BEHIND THE INSPIRATIONS BEHIND THE INSTALLATIONS.
INSTALLATIONS.
>> ART IS LIKE THE LIFEBLOOD OF >> ART IS LIKE THE LIFEBLOOD OF A SOCIETY OR A COMMUNITY.
A SOCIETY OR A COMMUNITY.
AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT, AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT, THERE'S ALWAYS -- FEELS LIKE THERE'S ALWAYS -- FEELS LIKE THERE'S SOMETHING MISSING.
THERE'S SOMETHING MISSING.
ME AND IMOWENT SOMEWHERE.
ME AND IMOWENT SOMEWHERE.
AND THERE WERE NO PAINTINGS.
AND THERE WERE NO PAINTINGS.
THIS PLAUS U.S.
THIS PLAUS U.S. -- PLACE SUCKS.
-- PLACE SUCKS.
[LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] >> IT MAKES ME GET A MARKER AND >> IT MAKES ME GET A MARKER AND DRAW IT ON THE WALL.
DRAW IT ON THE WALL.
ARTISTS ARE LIKE THE SPICE OF ARTISTS ARE LIKE THE SPICE OF LIFE.
LIFE.
AND WHEN YOU HAVE THAT LITTLE AND WHEN YOU HAVE THAT LITTLE BIT OF LIKE EVEN THIS EXHIBIT BIT OF LIKE EVEN THIS EXHIBIT ALONE, LIKE EVERYBODY HAS THEIR ALONE, LIKE EVERYBODY HAS THEIR LANE THAT THEY'RE IN.
LANE THAT THEY'RE IN.
AND THEY'RE IN THEIR LANE AND AND THEY'RE IN THEIR LANE AND DOING EVERYTHING SO WELL THAT IT DOING EVERYTHING SO WELL THAT IT STANDS OUT FROM EVERYBODY ELSE.
STANDS OUT FROM EVERYBODY ELSE.
WE'RE ALL DOING ART.
WE'RE ALL DOING ART.
WE'RE ALL USING PAINT.
WE'RE ALL USING PAINT.
WE'RE LITERALLY, YOU KNOW, DOING WE'RE LITERALLY, YOU KNOW, DOING THE SAME THING ESSENTIALLY.
THE SAME THING ESSENTIALLY.
WE'RE CREATING SOMETHING THAT WE'RE CREATING SOMETHING THAT WAS IN OUR HEAD.
WAS IN OUR HEAD.
AND IT'S LIKE, FOR PEOPLE TO AND IT'S LIKE, FOR PEOPLE TO EXPERIENCE THAT, NOT ONLY EXPERIENCE THAT, NOT ONLY CREATES GOOD MEMORIES BUT YOU CREATES GOOD MEMORIES BUT YOU INSPIRE OTHER ARTISTS AS WELL.
INSPIRE OTHER ARTISTS AS WELL.
>> YEAH, THAT'S -- THAT IS A >> YEAH, THAT'S -- THAT IS A HUGE PART OF IT, BECAUSE I MEAN HUGE PART OF IT, BECAUSE I MEAN I DIDN'T KNOW ANY OF YOU ODDS I DIDN'T KNOW ANY OF YOU ODDS FROM I AMA AND THESE PEOPLE ARE FROM I AMA AND THESE PEOPLE ARE MY FRIENDS NOW.
MY FRIENDS NOW.
AND THEY'RE MY SUPPORT GROUP, AND THEY'RE MY SUPPORT GROUP, WHETHER OR NOT YOU KNOW THIS.
WHETHER OR NOT YOU KNOW THIS.
>> YEAH.
>> YEAH.
>> BUT I FOUND WHEN WE WERE >> BUT I FOUND WHEN WE WERE INSTALLING WORK AND EVEN IN THE INSTALLING WORK AND EVEN IN THE DAY OF THE EXHIBIT, THERE WAS A DAY OF THE EXHIBIT, THERE WAS A LOT OF TALK ABOUT WHAT OUR WORK LOT OF TALK ABOUT WHAT OUR WORK PRACTICES ARE, SHARING NEW PRACTICES ARE, SHARING NEW TECHNIQUES, AND IT WAS -- LIKE I TECHNIQUES, AND IT WAS -- LIKE I LEFT EACH OF THOSE INTERACTIONS LEFT EACH OF THOSE INTERACTIONS SO EXCITED AND JUST PUMPED TO SO EXCITED AND JUST PUMPED TO TRY NEW THINGS AND IT'S -- IT'S TRY NEW THINGS AND IT'S -- IT'S LIKE WHEN YOU GO TO SCHOOL AND LIKE WHEN YOU GO TO SCHOOL AND YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU FEEL LIKE YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE.
YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE.
AND THEN YOU MAKE A FRIEND OR AND THEN YOU MAKE A FRIEND OR YOU MEET SOMEBODY AND THEY'RE YOU MEET SOMEBODY AND THEY'RE WEIRD LIKE ME!
WEIRD LIKE ME!
YOU KNOW, LIKE THEY GET IT!
YOU KNOW, LIKE THEY GET IT!
>> YEAH.
>> YEAH.
>> THEY'RE MY PEOPLE.
>> THEY'RE MY PEOPLE.
[LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] >> AND IT'S -- YEAH.
>> AND IT'S -- YEAH.
AND THEN, I DON'T KNOW, YOU PUSH AND THEN, I DON'T KNOW, YOU PUSH THAT ENERGY OUTWARD, TOO.
THAT ENERGY OUTWARD, TOO.
YOU FIND MORE OF YOUR PEOPLE.
YOU FIND MORE OF YOUR PEOPLE.
IT'S BEEN A REALLY AWESOME IT'S BEEN A REALLY AWESOME EXPERIENCE.
EXPERIENCE.
AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS -- AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS -- >> WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE >> WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE THE INTERVIEW, BUT THIS THE INTERVIEW, BUT THIS EXHIBITION IS YOU KNOW, SHARING EXHIBITION IS YOU KNOW, SHARING BLACKERS TO MADE MY BLACK BLACKERS TO MADE MY BLACK AIRPORTISTS.
AIRPORTISTS.
-- ARTISTS.
-- ARTISTS.
BUT YOU'RE INTENTIONAL THAT IT'S BUT YOU'RE INTENTIONAL THAT IT'S NOT JUST FOR BLACK VIEWERS OR -- NOT JUST FOR BLACK VIEWERS OR -- IT'S BEYOND.
IT'S BEYOND.
IT'S FOR PEOPLE OF ALL IT'S FOR PEOPLE OF ALL BACKGROUNDS.
BACKGROUNDS.
SO HOW CAN PEOPLE RELATE TO THIS SO HOW CAN PEOPLE RELATE TO THIS REGARDLESS OF YOUR RACIAL, REGARDLESS OF YOUR RACIAL, ETHNIC, AND RELIGIOUS ETHNIC, AND RELIGIOUS BACKGROUND?
BACKGROUND?
>> I THINK ANYBODY IN THE CASE >> I THINK ANYBODY IN THE CASE OF ZSA ZSA'S WORK, JIB THAT'S OF ZSA ZSA'S WORK, JIB THAT'S BEEN A PARENT OR A CHILD CAN BEEN A PARENT OR A CHILD CAN RELATE TO WHAT GOES ON IN A RELATE TO WHAT GOES ON IN A FAMILY AND ALSO MAYBE THINGS FAMILY AND ALSO MAYBE THINGS THAT YOU DON'T REALIZE ARE GOING THAT YOU DON'T REALIZE ARE GOING ON AT THE TIME UNTIL YOU PUT A ON AT THE TIME UNTIL YOU PUT A LITTLE BIT OF YEARS BEHIND YOU.
LITTLE BIT OF YEARS BEHIND YOU.
I THINK WITH COLLEY'S WORK, I THINK WITH COLLEY'S WORK, EVERYBODY CAN RELATE TO THE NEED EVERYBODY CAN RELATE TO THE NEED TO HAVE A MESSAGE TO GET OUT, TO HAVE A MESSAGE TO GET OUT, THE NEED TO SHARE THAT, TO LIFT THE NEED TO SHARE THAT, TO LIFT OTHER PEOPLE UP, AND I THINK OTHER PEOPLE UP, AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH MY STUFF, THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH MY STUFF, EVERYBODY HAD TOYS AT SOME EVERYBODY HAD TOYS AT SOME POINT, RIGHT?
POINT, RIGHT?
YOU KNOW.
YOU KNOW.
I MEAN, WHETHER THEY WERE, YOU I MEAN, WHETHER THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, FANCY ONES OR, YOU KNOW, KNOW, FANCY ONES OR, YOU KNOW, LIKE SOMETHING YOU MADE LIKE SOMETHING YOU MADE YOURSELF.
YOURSELF.
SO EVERYBODY HAS A NEED TO SO EVERYBODY HAS A NEED TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES.
EXPRESS THEMSELVES.
PEOPLE WANT TO CONNECT.
PEOPLE WANT TO CONNECT.
AND I THINK IT ALSO -- HOPEFULLY AND I THINK IT ALSO -- HOPEFULLY MAKES PEOPLE FREELY THAT THEY MAKES PEOPLE FREELY THAT THEY CAN ASK QUESTIONS.
CAN ASK QUESTIONS.
YEAH, SO IT'S DEFINITELY ALL YEAH, SO IT'S DEFINITELY ALL INCLUSIVE.
INCLUSIVE.
>> WITH THIS EXHIBITION TITLED, >> WITH THIS EXHIBITION TITLED, SOMETHING EXTRAORDINARY, WHAT IS SOMETHING EXTRAORDINARY, WHAT IS THAT SOMETHING EXTRAORDINARY THAT SOMETHING EXTRAORDINARY THAT YOU FIND WITHIN THIS THAT YOU FIND WITHIN THIS COLLABORATIVE PROJECT?
COLLABORATIVE PROJECT?
>> YOU KNOW, I REALLY -- I >> YOU KNOW, I REALLY -- I REALLY LIKE THE FACT THAT WE'RE REALLY LIKE THE FACT THAT WE'RE NOT JUST TELLING OUR OWN NOT JUST TELLING OUR OWN STORIES.
STORIES.
THERE'S A PERSONAL ASPECT TO IT, THERE'S A PERSONAL ASPECT TO IT, YES, LIKE I'LL JUST SAY MY OWN YES, LIKE I'LL JUST SAY MY OWN WORK.
WORK.
LIKE IT IS -- IT IS MY STORY.
LIKE IT IS -- IT IS MY STORY.
BUT IT'S NOT JUST MY STORY, BUT IT'S NOT JUST MY STORY, BECAUSE I KNOW SO MANY MEN BECAUSE I KNOW SO MANY MEN PERSONALLY WHO HAVE EITHER BEEN PERSONALLY WHO HAVE EITHER BEEN THROUGH THIS OR ARE GOING THROUGH THIS OR ARE GOING THROUGH IT.
THROUGH IT.
AND IT DOESN'T GET TALKED ABOUT.
AND IT DOESN'T GET TALKED ABOUT.
IT DOESN'T GET BROUGHT TO THE IT DOESN'T GET BROUGHT TO THE LIGHT.
LIGHT.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST MISSING YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST MISSING FROM THE CONVERSATION.
FROM THE CONVERSATION.
LIKE THAT'S HOW SOCIETY SEES US, LIKE THAT'S HOW SOCIETY SEES US, AS MISSING.
AS MISSING.
AND WHAT I REALLY WANTED TO DO AND WHAT I REALLY WANTED TO DO WITH THIS WORK IS PUT OUT WITH THIS WORK IS PUT OUT DISPLAY.
DISPLAY.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I NEED IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I NEED TO BE ASHAMED OF BECAUSE I'VE TO BE ASHAMED OF BECAUSE I'VE NEVER BEEN ASHAMED OF BEING A NEVER BEEN ASHAMED OF BEING A DAD AND I NEVER SAW LIFE WITHOUT DAD AND I NEVER SAW LIFE WITHOUT MY KIDS.
MY KIDS.
I NEVER ONCE THOUGHT, MAN, I I NEVER ONCE THOUGHT, MAN, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE CARE OF MY DON'T WANT TO TAKE CARE OF MY KIDS.
KIDS.
NO, I WANT TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR NO, I WANT TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MY KIDS AND I WANT TO BE A PART MY KIDS AND I WANT TO BE A PART OF IT.
OF IT.
AND I DON'T WANT TO BE TOLD THAT AND I DON'T WANT TO BE TOLD THAT I CAN ONLY SEE THEM ON THESE I CAN ONLY SEE THEM ON THESE DAYS AND THESE TIMES.
DAYS AND THESE TIMES.
THAT IS A UNIVERSAL STORY, THAT IS A UNIVERSAL STORY, WHETHER PEOPLE WANT TO WHETHER PEOPLE WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE IT OR NOT.
ACKNOWLEDGE IT OR NOT.
BLACK MEN, MEN OF COLOR, BLACK MEN, MEN OF COLOR, PUERTO RICAN, LATINO, WHATEVER, PUERTO RICAN, LATINO, WHATEVER, WE'RE THERE.
WE'RE THERE.
WE JUST DON'T GET TALKED ABOUT.
WE JUST DON'T GET TALKED ABOUT.
>> I LIKE ALSO THE -- WHEN I >> I LIKE ALSO THE -- WHEN I LOOK AT ALL OF THE PIECES HERE, LOOK AT ALL OF THE PIECES HERE, THERE'S A RESOURCEFULNESS ALSO, THERE'S A RESOURCEFULNESS ALSO, YOU KNOW.
YOU KNOW.
I USED TO TEND TO THINK OF THE I USED TO TEND TO THINK OF THE ARTS AS BEING SOMETHING REALLY ARTS AS BEING SOMETHING REALLY DEPENDENCIVE.
DEPENDENCIVE.
YOU NEED A LOT OF GREAT YOU NEED A LOT OF GREAT EQUIPMENT -- EXPENSIVE.
EQUIPMENT -- EXPENSIVE.
YOU NEAT A LOT OF GREAT YOU NEAT A LOT OF GREAT EQUIPMENT -- EQUIPMENT -- >> AND I'M SURE -- >> AND I'M SURE -- >> OR -- >> OR -- >> I'M USING MY DINKY DOLLAR >> I'M USING MY DINKY DOLLAR STORE LIGHTS TO TAKE PHOTOS AND STORE LIGHTS TO TAKE PHOTOS AND KIMBERLY IS USING CUT PAPER.
KIMBERLY IS USING CUT PAPER.
AND WHEN I WAS A LITTLE KID, I AND WHEN I WAS A LITTLE KID, I USED TO THINK AN ARTIST WAS JUST USED TO THINK AN ARTIST WAS JUST ONE TYPE OF THING.
ONE TYPE OF THING.
AND THEN IT WAS JUST -- REALLY AND THEN IT WAS JUST -- REALLY AWESOME TO HAVE REINFORCED AWESOME TO HAVE REINFORCED THE -- YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL THE -- YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL ARTISTS.
ARTISTS.
WE ALL ARE WORKING IN DIFFERENT WE ALL ARE WORKING IN DIFFERENT WAYS AND WE'RE ALL THIS GREAT WAYS AND WE'RE ALL THIS GREAT COMMUNITY THAT'S BEEN THE COMMUNITY THAT'S BEEN THE BIGGEST WIN FOR ME.
BIGGEST WIN FOR ME.
THIS WAS MY FIRST ART SHOW, SO THIS WAS MY FIRST ART SHOW, SO THAT IN AND OF ITSELF WAS THAT IN AND OF ITSELF WAS EXCITING.
EXCITING.
BUT IT'S THE FRIENDS YOU MAKE BUT IT'S THE FRIENDS YOU MAKE ALONG THE WAY.
ALONG THE WAY.
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EDITION OF "CONNECTING POINT."
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